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Post by starborn on Dec 29, 2006 15:42:03 GMT -3
Ok I just recently started riding a NFLD STB X named Star Born AKA Star. Shes 19 and dark bay with a star on her forehead. She had a foal in April or May i can't remember and her name is Meissa and her dad is a Clydesdale.
Yesterday, me, Sarah Easton(shes on the forum) and other people went for a part of a trail ride (because it was to icy) and rode in the arena. On the trail ride on the way back she slipped on some black ice and fell right on her bum and luckily i stayed on i got scared though. We also cantered on a strait away in some snow it was very fun.
Then in the arena we walked around in some big and small circles and worked on our balance and then trotted in big circles and then tried some cantering but it didn't work out to good. After that we trotted again in big circles and i used a snow plow technique(spl?) and see-sawing her reins to help get her head down and keep her at a slow trot, she did very good. Ill try to keep posted and post some pictures later.
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Post by Sarah P on Dec 29, 2006 15:49:40 GMT -3
... what???
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Post by Sarah on Dec 29, 2006 15:54:10 GMT -3
snow plowing as in keeping your hands ( reins ) on your thighs. see-sawing ( pulling gently on one side of the reins then the other ) helps round out the horses neck. she did this because star holds her head up very high when trotting, and it needs to be lower. correct me if im wrong.
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Post by Andrea on Dec 29, 2006 15:58:39 GMT -3
Side reins? Martingale? Anything but hauling on your horses mouth. I've seen people make their horses mouth's bleed doing this.
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Post by Suzanne on Dec 29, 2006 16:02:32 GMT -3
these methods shouldn't be used, UNLESS used properly... I know I used to swear by this "snow plow" method until I learnt more about the horse and bits... Be careful with your horse! PLEASE be gentle with its mouth! good luck with her!
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Post by Sarah P on Dec 29, 2006 16:09:32 GMT -3
Yes, I know what 'snowplowing' is. But I beg to differ. How can it NOT hurt the horse? You're applying a steady pressure with no breaktime or release on the horses mouth in order for it to 'lower it's head'. Perhaps you ought to try correctly working with the horse and letting it stretch then obtaining contact once the horse is relaxed.
Yeah, it 'rounds out the horses neck', but not in the sence you're talking about. It causes the horse to break at the third vertebre and causes ineffective muscling. ..someone..hold me back..
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Post by Sarah on Dec 29, 2006 16:12:52 GMT -3
Yes, I know what 'snowplowing' is. But I beg to differ. How can it NOT hurt the horse? You're applying a steady pressure with no breaktime or release on the horses mouth in order for it to 'lower it's head'. Perhaps you ought to try correctly working with the horse and letting it stretch then obtaining contact once the horse is relaxed. Yeah, it 'rounds out the horses neck', but not in the sence you're talking about. It causes the horse to break at the third vertebre and causes ineffective muscling. ..someone..hold me back.. whoa. i did not know that! omg, poor blaze. in additon to amanda using this techinque on star i used in on blaze. it was only for a couple of minutes..but holy crap. i feel terrible. god ; i could have hurt him bad. i didnt know. wow. this is horrible. i dont know what else to say.. gah/ this sucks. i feel so bad. trust me ; if i knew that BEFORE i never would have done it. im sorry, i was uniformed it could hurt him. edit ;; in my defense i didnt just up and decide to do this , the horse's owner was showing us because the horses had their heads up way high, if i had known that it could do THAT to a horse i never, EVER would have done it. i love horses so much and like i said id hate myself for hurting one. im sorry.
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Post by Jess on Dec 29, 2006 16:38:23 GMT -3
"..someone..hold me back.." Deep breaths, Sarah, deep breaths...
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Post by Amyy on Dec 29, 2006 16:43:45 GMT -3
if your using these techniques, use it with releaseing, when the horse brings his head down to where you like, you release so the horse knows hes doing right, if you are always pulling the horse will always be pulling back against you, and you will never make progress.
*****holds Sarah back******** lol
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Post by starborn on Dec 29, 2006 16:54:26 GMT -3
I do release after like a minute i barely do it and i didn't even really know that. Amanda Langdon always told me to do it. I would never want to hurt a horse! But she never acted like it hurt her or anything and she was fine but ill stop doing it! and ill get a martingale or tie down or something! thanks for telling me this guys!
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Post by happilyeverafter on Dec 29, 2006 17:25:57 GMT -3
oh yikes. I'm going to go take a walk before I freak out....
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Post by carly on Dec 29, 2006 17:47:11 GMT -3
omgg ..guys id say you need to calm down .. like she said 'she didn't know'
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Post by Suzanne on Dec 29, 2006 17:59:57 GMT -3
I agree with Carly! they clearly said they didn't know, now they know better! they said they would be more careful...
maybe you could give them advise as to how to deal with this problem? different methods, techniques, I am sure they would be interested!
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Post by starborn on Dec 29, 2006 18:00:48 GMT -3
i would be definatly interest! im always looking for ways to improve my riding and my horse!
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Post by happilyeverafter on Dec 29, 2006 18:05:33 GMT -3
To get your horses head down: try using a standing martingale, or a bungee cord. To keep her slow and steady, ride lots and lots and lots of figures; hold the outside rein and sponge with the inside hand (can explain more if necessary, I dont know your level of riding!) See-sawing is brutal on a horses mouth, and I'm surprised Amanda would tell you to do that!! For further reference, never listen to a person tell you to see saw on a horses mouth, because there is always a better way to solve the problem I'm not really familiar with the snow plowing, but I think I get the idea. What kind of bit is the horse in?
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